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Just Four Feature (1973-1983)

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The Story

Written by Gerry Gallagher and Niall Power

The early 1970's were a time of tumultuous change on the Irish entertainment scene. (Editor's note: in our short history of the era, we have noted the early 1970's as the "transition years"  http://www.irish-showbands.com/history3.htm). Bands were breaking up and reforming and some of the aging showband stars took refuge in the growing cabaret scene initially in the big cities, but slowly spreading across the country as pubs built huge extensions to their premises creating a lucrative circuit for a new kind of entertainment beyond the confines of ballad sessions and singalongs and the "cabaret" scene exploded.

The old pubs, which had previously been the domain of local groups, folk acts and in the larger venues acts like The Dubliners, Wolfe Tones, Brendan Grace, Johnny McEvoy, and Danny Doyle suddenly provided an opportunity for bands formed specifically to provide a new form of entertainment where dancing was not the main attraction for "punters." Comedy and variety, along with music, began to take center stage.

In February, 1973 four musicians came together to form a band specifically designed for this new market. The original lineup featured three members of Art Supple's Victors: Des Hopkins (drums), Jimmy Byrne (guitar) and Arthur O'Neill (sax), joined with bass player Danny O'Driscoll (who would only be with the band for a month of so) to play their first gigs. What made the band so "unique" at the time was the fact that they could all sing and featured a wide range of instrumental music as well.

Not only was the band unknown when they started, but the cabaret scene/circuit was still in its infancy so both the promoters and the artists were treading new ground. It would take some time for venues to decide whether booking cabaret acts would be right for them and whether their patrons would be willing to pay a cover charge at the door (which back then was fairly minimal).

The band also had to figure out what they would play in their set. As former showband musicians they were all used to playing a mix of country and pop, learning the hits of the day as well as old standards, but that had all been to get people dancing and cabaret was a new scene altogether. Their first gig was a private party in the Hotel Keadeen in Newbridge on Friday, 9th February when their lineup included friend Barry Cluskey on sax. The following Sunday (the 11th) they played their first gig using the name "Just Four" at a dance in Jimmy's home town of Castlecomer. Their fee after expenses, was used as a deposit on a PA system for the new group, consisting of two "Crazy Box" speaker cabinets, a Hi Watt power amp, a Binson echo, along with some microphones and stands.

Although the band was soon filling the diary with gigs, they realised that to "make it" on the scene they would need a lead singer. Des had a younger brother, Billy, who was with the Royal out of Waterford in their waning days and he was interested in joining the band so Danny was let go  and the band remained a four piece. 

Arthur felt something was missing and suggested adding some comedy to their show and started to incorporate some comedic elements to the evening's entertainment which was met with approval by their growing number of fans. They soon attracted the attention of Sean Clancy who was already managing several top tier cabaret acts and he signed on as the group's manager.

The band was soon playing up and down the country in their two black Morris Minor cars (no van yet for the group) with equipment tied to the roof racks and crammed into the back seats. They would eventually purchase a second hand van. The band soon had its first overseas tour, playing Irish pubs in and around London, but it was fraught with problems mostly from a transportation perspective. The band was playing so much that first year, they hired a roadie named Sean Egan to help with the equipment and driving. Sean would leave and a young Niall Power would take his place.

In late 1973 the band recorded one of their gigs in the Copper Beech in Edenderry and released it as a live album on the Olympic record label calling it "Just Four at the Copper Beech" in early 1974. As 1974 started both the group and the cabaret circuit were exploding across the country. The released their debut album in February and the gigs kept rolling in. It wasn't long before the boys attracted the attention of RTE and they were offered a slot on the Anna McGoldrick Show. Recorded on 26th February, and broadcast on 21st June 1974, where they performed a medley of songs.

After the success of their first album, a second live album was recorded in July called Welcome To Pedigree Corner,’ and once again it was released on Olympic records. It featured Just Four, playing alongside and also backing some of the other acts that evening. All the artists featured played regularly at Pedigree Corner.

The 23rd Of October saw the band appearing on RTE Television once again, recording the popular light entertainment program, The Likes Of Mike with host Mike Murphy. This show also featured singers Twink and Des Smith and was broadcast on the 7th November. In 1975, the band undertook several tours of English clubs in London, Liverpool and Birmingham, becoming a hit act on that circuit.

In June 1975, the band finally released its first single, a cover of "Glad All Over" originally by the Dave Clark Five with Herb Alpert's "Tijuana Taxi" on the B-side. The record would reach number 17 on the Irish charts but would only stay in the charts for two weeks, making it a minor hit, but a chart hit all the same, something not many showbands achieved back in the early 1970's. Around this time, the band signed with Dublin manager, Noel Carty, who was already managing the Magic Band and Brendan Shine.

As the band played gigs into 1976, everything was going well. They had several residencies but as the cabaret scene began to peak, they were traveling hundreds of miles every week and would go through several "wagons" in the process. In March, they did another brief tour of England around St. Patrick's Day festivities.  Their next single would not appear until 1977 when they released "Putting the Bad Times Behind Me" on the Ruby label but unlike their first offering, it did not make the charts.      

March 1978 saw the band release another record. This song called ‘The Tellyman,’ was a parody, written by Kevin Farrell from the Copper Beech in Edenderry, and released on the Bandbox label. It was a tongue-in-cheek effort aimed at getting people to purchase a television license. The song received considerable airplay on national radio, but it failed to make the charts.

1979 was probably the most notable and prestigious year in the band's history. In April, the ‘Irish Music Scene’ awards concert was held at the National Ballroom in Kilburn, where Just Four were the recipients of the top cabaret act to visit Britain for the year 1978/79. The show was hosted by BBC Radio D.J., Pete Murray, who presented the award to the band. October 1st saw the band fulfill what would be a dream gig for any musician, when they performed their show at London’s Royal Albert Hall. This event, known as the ‘Blake’ variety concert, was held to mark the ‘Year of the Child,’ with upwards of 5,000 people attending. After a few weeks at home, the band's whirlwind year continued as they were back in London in early November, to appear as special guests on the Val Doonican show, at the Wembley Conference Centre, where they played the first half of the show.

As the 1980's started, the Irish entertainment scene was in a tailspin. Money was tight and this would be the "beginning of the end" for both the cabaret and ballroom circuits. Two singles were released during 1981. The first was ‘Brian Boru,’ written by RTE broadcaster and TV sports presenter Brendan OReilly. Released on Glenside records, this song was entered for the Cavan International song contest in April 1980 and performed by Just Four, who duly won the competition. The second release was an attempt at the Christmas charts, with a song written by Showband veterans Danny Ellis and Red Hurley called ‘Will you Marry Me For Christmas.’ Produced by Dick Keating and released on the bands own label, Lillywhite Records. It didn’t receive much airplay on national radio and it would be the last record that Just Four released.

Although the band continued to tour the UK for the next couple of years, the writing was on the wall both at home and abroad. Some Irish bands would head off to places like South Africa, Spain or Mexico to stay solvent but most just threw in the towel. Just Four would be no different and in 1983, they decided to go their separate ways.  

Four UK tours were undertaken during the bands final year, and a unanimous decision was made to split up in the coming autumn. A notable highlight during this year was their appearance at the open air Irish festival concert in Roundwood Park, Willesden, with thousands in attendance. The very last Just Four performance was in Ramsbottoms Pub, in Stradbally, Co Laois, on Thursday 20th October 1983.

With no formal announcement preceding this gig in the press, Des just announced from the stage to the audience that this was to be their last gig as Just Four. The final song played by the band was a tune called ‘Stealaway,’ a recent chart hit for the Furey Brothers.

The lads just packed away their gear for the last time and went home. After 10 years and 9 months, the reign of Just Four was over. Undoubtedly Ireland’s best Cabaret act, they broke the mould when it came to live performances, and the rest could only follow their lead.

Des and Billy returned to the stage as the Hopkins Brothers,’ and continued performing as a duo for the next 25 years. They would probably still be playing together today, were it not for the untimely passing of Billy in 2010. Des has always kept the flag flying for his first love, ‘Trad Jazz,’ and alongside his fellow Jazz musicians, they play regular gigs around the country. Most noteworthy is their yearly appearance every October at the Cork Jazz Festival.

Jimmy worked for a while in a bank, before returning to the music scene to play with artists like Two’s Company, The Big Three and also the Art Supple band. Nowadays, he’s still active, playing the music for his local pantomime troupe and teaching guitar in his native Castlecomer.

Arthur relocated to Doncaster in England where he worked as a bricklayer for a time. Later, upon returning to Ireland, he played with an adult dancing band called ‘Ena and the Moonshiners.’ From time to time, Arthur also stepped in as a guest musician with the Hopkins Brothers. He is still out there today playing his music at corporate functions and other events.

More to come.....

Photo Gallery

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Years Guitar Bass Drums Sax
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1973
Jimmy
Byne
Danny
O'Driscoll
Des
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Arthur
O'Neill
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1973
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Byne
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Discography

Singles

Glad All Over / Tijuana Taxi - #17 Irish Charts
Play Records - PLAY 85 - May, 1975
Putting the Bad Times Behind Me / If You Wanna' Live You Gotta' Love

Ruby Records - RUB 202 - 1977
The Tellyman / Whistling Rufus

Bandbox Records - BB 101 - 1978

Brian Boru / The Curragh of Kildare

Glenside Records - EPW 352 - 1980
Will You Marry Me For Christmas / Whistling Rufus
Lillywhite Records - LW 002 - 1981

Albums

Just Four at the Copper Beech
Olympic Records - OBL 100 - 1974
Welcome To Pedigree Corner
Olympic Records - OBL 101 - 1974

Audio Clips

         
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Where Are They Now?  

Jimmy Byrne:
Des Hopkins:
Billy Hopkins - RIP:
Danny O'Driscoll:
Arthur O'Neill:

 


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